Here is a recorded conversation tape between Hiroshi Saito, a pediatrician at Nihon University Hospital, and Jimmy's mother. In this conversation, doctors and nurses at Nihon University Hospital called Hiroshi Saito from the Kanda police because his mother, who found similarities with Jimmy in the contents of the two papers written by the federation, reported to the Kanda police. This is the content when Hiroshi Saito called his mother immediately after the call.

On this phone, Jimmy's mother said about the treatise, "The child mentioned in this treatise is Jimmy, isn't it? If you're not Jimmy, bring your parents who have agreed to such a cruel thing. You can't take it with you. It's probably not a treatise written with the consent of my parents. Suddenly, Hiroshi Saito began to confess. The content was, "I made Jimmy undernourished because of the treatise, and did not expose him to sunlight to make rickets (osteomalacia). At the same time, "many pediatric doctors are targeting children with disabilities and foreigners for unapproved drugs and treatments by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare ." I have confessed. The next day, at the meeting place, in front of Jimmy's parents, "I used unapproved drugs and unapproved treatments for more than 100 children with disabilities at Ashikaga no Mori Ashikaga Hospital. I confess.

However, at this time, I still couldn't understand what Hiroshi Saito was saying, but four months after this recording tape, I actually went to Ashikaga Mori Ashikaga Hospital. He visited and heard from a pediatrician that he was using unapproved drugs for many children with disabilities without informed consent or consent to his parents, and at the same time, one of those children with disabilities was in good health. No patient became ill, and all returned by hearse. At that time, I realized for the first time that Hiroshi Saito's act was a human experiment, and I felt awkward.

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The following is what Hiroshi Saito confessed at this time.

1. Unusual aggressive treatment (human experimentation) and non-general treatment are difficult to do at university, so I used to use the place of Ashikaga where there are many children with disabilities. (Human experimentation)

2. Whether or not to do aggressive things (human experimentation), when I was in Ashikaga, I was actually doing quite aggressive things. Mostly, all of them are chronic patients and they don't change, but I was allowed to do various things (I used a lot of children with disabilities as experimental materials), and everyone (other doctors) cooperated with me. I wonder if there is such a teacher. Whether to do it or not.

3. Since all the treatments are so-called insured, I usually don't want to go to any university, so Ashikaga or such a small hospital is easier to move around.

4. What I'm talking about right now is a very insane (human experimentation) story, so I can't talk about it in Japan.

5. The medical treatment I am talking about is not a general treatment. Treatment that no one has ever done (human experimentation).

6. What I'm trying to do is that there is no adaptation, so ordinary people don't do it.

This recording tape is a tape that was recorded from the middle in a hurry at that time.

At this time, the mother did not create that the content of Hiroshi Saito's confession was that there was no informed consent to his parents. However, four months after this recording tape, Hiroshi Saito's confession at that time was the content of a horrifying human experiment, and such a cruel unethical and antisocial act was played in the game. But I was afraid of Hiroshi Saito, who was talking like that.